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Offline cml001

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Making The Switch
« on: March 07, 2016, 10:05:10 AM »
No.. Not Switch blades! Lol.. Love my Rails! I am making a change in electronics.. Switching from Spektrum to Futaba.  In reading all that I have on things Futaba.. Seems there is much to learn. My main 2 reasons for the change has nothing negative to do with Spektrum.. I've been in the RC for 3yrs now.. CP helis for about 2 1/2... Never an issue with my DX6i or my DX9.. Great radios.. But, having tried the 18SZ.. And the CGY750.. I want to give it a shot. So it's a slow process$$$$$$.. And this pushed my 766 build out that much further.. But.. I'm doin it. So I have ?s..
   I'll start with the N5C. My current set up is Spektrum sats, Spektrum TM1000(telem module), & iKon(using iKon gov). With this set up getting my telem info is as follows.. I have a Futaba RPM magnet sensor on the clutch bell to feed my gov info to iKon... I have a second sensor, Spektrum backplate, to feed my telem data. Also, a temp & RX volt sensor. Sooo.. The new setup will be R7008SB RX & CGY750... So I'll now have the advent of SBus & SBus2! If I replace my regular Futaba magnet sensor for the on that has the telem thingie.. Will that provide my gov info to the CGY750 & telem data to my TX or will I need to do as before and use a both a backplate & a magnet on the bell to get both gov & telem data?
   Another ? Is ports... With the temp sensor on the head of the motor needing the SBus2 port with the gov and any other sensor I want to add... How do I plug it all into the one SBus2 port?  The optional hub? Which one?
   Any insight is much appreciated to help with this learning curve... Thanks in advance.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 07:55:14 AM by cml001 »
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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2016, 11:06:35 AM »
Never mind... I see it.
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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2016, 07:38:29 PM »
Ok... I did the E7SE first.. Today I maidened the E7SE with its new set up... Fantastic!
1) The KDE 535kv motor rocks! It's lighter than the 505kv I pulled out of her and still has just as much power & torque. Just strong as hell! Love KDE!
2) The Castle Link2 sent all telemetry data to the 18SZ as it should have.. No need for all those sensors.. The Castle does it all! Very happy with that!
3) Futaba... I've got it double here.. 18SZ TX & CGY750 FBL. Coming off Spektrum I can tell u it definitely has a more connected feel.. The response to stick input is much faster & more crisp. Now.. This was very scary at first.. I have been flying the Chase with this radio.. But this was the first flights on the big bird with it.. Taking a little to get used to as 4yrs of muscle memory on the Spektrum feel.... It's just taking time to get used to.. But definitely prefer the feel of the Futaba radio. Now onto the CGY750... OMG! Dude.. Its fabulous! I tuned it per instruction via Nick Maxwell's new video set up on V2... Took Levar's gain settings as a starting point.. And they were spot on! No drift.. No occultations.. No bounce back... No bobble.. Piros flat.. COMPLETELY LOCKED IN! The tail & gov issue I've had since I built her last summer are not present now... I've been fighting to get good tune for almost year.. Hard to believe it was the iKon... I can adjust all gains via the TX... No computer needed.. It AWESOME! I have had great luck with my iKon units on everything except the E7SE.. It just never felt good.. The CGY750 feels soooo good. I'll be pulling the iKon off the N5C this week... Just feel in love with Synergy all over again... The CGY750 is awesome!
« Last Edit: April 10, 2016, 07:55:05 PM by cml001 »
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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2016, 07:55:31 PM »
That's great!  The biggest surprise for me when I switched from Spektrum to Futaba was that there was such a noticeable difference in response time.  At the time, I only changed radios and not FBL controllers and the difference in how more connected it felt really caught me by surprise.
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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2016, 07:58:04 PM »
Absolutely! Shocking really.. I didn't fully understand when people described "connected" as a feeling between the TX & the bird until now.. Not saying anything bad about the Spektrum.. Never had an issue with Spektrum...but this just... Man it's great!
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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2016, 07:59:42 AM »
 I Fly spectrum and got the same feeling when I went from DX8 to the DX18, Feeling crisper and very locked in and faster too.
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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2016, 11:12:29 AM »
cml001... I actually did swap because of an issue with Spektrum but that's a different story. I got the 18SZ and I LOVE everything about it. Other than the fact the menus are nothing like I'm used to with Spektrum and the Futaba manual is... well, it's a Futaba manual. L. Aside from that, the feel is amazing. Problem is it's so different and new to me I'm still a bit intimidated setting up new helis. I'm devoted now though. At Joe Nall I picked up 10 more recievers for my planes and helis. I actually may need to hit you up for advice from time to time if you don't mind. I'm also putting a CGY750 on my 766 soon and I've never used that either. I've heard the radio can control everything on the 750. Sounds sweet. Can't wait to learn this stuff so it feels natural to me. I do love Futaba though. Seeing how you've gone from Spektrum to Futaba and I've just done the same, if you don't mind, I assume you're in the perfect position to understand the things I'm getting hung up on.
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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2016, 03:10:59 PM »
Sure.. I can give it a shot.. No expert but I'll gladly share what I do know! Hit me up when u r ready.
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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2016, 05:56:59 PM »
If you have ANY CGY-750 questions this is definitely a good place to get them answered because we have quite a few guys on the Synergy team, including Dr. Ben, who are very experienced in setting them up.
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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2016, 09:02:00 PM »
Welcome to the Futaba Family Clay.. You won't be sorry.. I feel certain Vince is happy with the CGY750 we put in at Matt's. It flew great..

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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2016, 10:14:20 PM »
Love'n it! Still getting used to the speed of the connection/response as compared to the Spektrum gear.. But I'm definitely love'n it!
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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2016, 09:59:58 PM »
I was really nervous selling both my DX9's and buying the 18SZ and got even more nervous when surfing through the menus realizing this was a whole new ball game. After my first flight however, the nervousness was replaced with excitement. You're right, it's hard to put into words, but it just seems to feel more connected. I am thinking about tightening the tension on the sticks a tad. Aren't these gimbals incredible? They are so smooth but so easy to move I feel it's making me not fly as locked in as I normally would. Going to fly a little longer in their stock settings and see if I get used to it. May still be a little bit of nerves involved. L

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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2016, 10:17:00 PM »
Exactly! I had given thought to increasing the tension on the sticks as well.. But decided not to.. They are just too smooth to mess with.. It's awesome.. Now I do agree that the transition from Spektrum to Futaba does feel like u backed up a couple steps in your skill of handling the heli.. I will almost say I'm still not as precise as I was before.. But.. The past couple weeks it has started to come back right for me. I still overshoot a stick command here and there.. But it's getting better.. If ur asking.. I'd say give it a solid month or two before increasing the tention of the sticks... For me.. It was years of Spektrum burned in the brain.. So I couldnt expect it not to take time to get accustomed to Futaba. Do what works for u... I'm glad u r digging the new radio.. Congrats!
« Last Edit: July 09, 2016, 10:19:13 PM by cml001 »
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Re: Making The Switch
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2016, 08:22:36 PM »
Well, to do that I must first find time to fly. I gave up the other day and unplugged the pack in my 18SZ since it doesn't appear I'll be using it anytime soon. This year is really kicking my ass. Aside from the week I spent hanging out with you at Joe Nall Week, I've honestly only been flying ONE DAY and it's killing me. I NEED TO FLY MAN!!!