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Offline J Anthony

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N5C Vbar NEO PITCH! Worried!
« on: March 09, 2017, 08:51:27 AM »
Good day everyone,
     I just built my first N5C and I'm also using a Vbar (NEO) for the first time. So far I love the setup software. My problem is I have WAY too much pitch. Going down to 80 on the slider (the lowest they suggest) only brought it down to about 15 degrees of collective pitch. Even bringing the slider all the way down wasn't close enough. I have the balls on the servo horns 10mm from the bolt as suggested. The only thing I could find that works was to lower my pitch curve in the TX (Futaba 18SZ) to 69 on both sides. The NEO software says something about doing this if I read it correctly and tells you that if you change the pitch curve in software it will also change it in your VControl if that's what you're using. That's what made me think it was OK to do. Anyway... if anyone can shed some light on this I'd REALLY appreciate it. Thank you very much.

J. Anthony
 
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Offline Kevin Feil

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Re: N5C Vbar NEO PITCH! Worried!
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2017, 11:03:48 AM »
J,

Congrats on your build first an for most, regarding the Neo question, I know Mike Spano flies the Neo on his N5c and I would suggest sending him a pm. I know that system compliments the machine very well as well as your Futaba. Sounds like you did your homework and have put together a really nice machine...

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Re: N5C Vbar NEO PITCH! Worried!
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2017, 12:18:08 PM »
Thanks for the reply Kevin. I actually PM'd Mike right after I posted that but I figured the more the merrier when it comes to advice, plus I don't know what his work schedule is. I've built many kits but I've never used VBar. I LOVE the software they use for setup, but this one thing I'm not certain about. Actually I'm not certain about setting up the nitro gov function either, but one thing at a time. L. Thanks again.
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Re: N5C Vbar NEO PITCH! Worried!
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2017, 06:17:24 PM »
Make sure your pivot balls on the servo are mounted at 10mm out from the center of the servo.

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Re: N5C Vbar NEO PITCH! Worried!
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2017, 06:22:10 PM »
I have an n5c with a Neo as well. My numbers are lower than 80 without any issues. Some say they can feel a difference with lower numbers and have ground down their wheels to move the balls in. I think it flys great with the balls at 10mm and the numbers low enough to get 12 degrees of pitch. I don't think you will be happy flying it with 15 degrees of pitch.
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Offline LWilliams1214

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Re: N5C Vbar NEO PITCH! Worried!
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2017, 06:46:20 PM »
Lowering the pitch curve in the transmitter won't give you any adverse effects. Last I checked on my setup I was down to about 65-70 for my collective end points and above 80 in the vbar NEO software. It sounds like you're good to go.

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Re: N5C Vbar NEO PITCH! Worried!
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2017, 07:39:09 PM »
Great. Thanks.. Yes Matt the balls are 10mm out from the servo bolt hole. I remembered you telling me that in Huntsville. I just didn't know if I would confuse the VBAR by lowering pitch curves in the TX. Right now my curves in the TX are at 69 on each end and the slider in the software is on 100 and I've got 12 degrees of pitch. If the pitch curves in the radio are fine being lower then I should be good. I just wasn't sure. Thank you all very much. Now I just have to figure out the nitro gov. YAY!
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Re: N5C Vbar NEO PITCH! Worried!
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2017, 02:03:12 AM »
Just read this from the Vbar website if anyone was still interested. Just to confirm what L said, they say it's fine to lower the pitch curves in the TX to get the correct pitch range. From Vbar manual...
"Adjust collective travel...
Please set the desired collective travel here. The range for this is optimal between 80 and 100. You may reduce (but not increase) the pitch values later in your transmitter using the pitch curve function, e. g. if you measure different angles for maximum positive and maximum negativ collective. Check that your transmitter output doesnt exceed 115 % of travel in any case." Thanks again everyone. I'm sure I'll be back in a few days when I really try to figure out the nitro gov. I've thought about just throwing the Align gov from my old 600N on it. It's not as good, but damn it's simple. I'm old enough now I'm all about some simple. :) Thanks guys.
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Offline LWilliams1214

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Re: N5C Vbar NEO PITCH! Worried!
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2017, 04:19:52 PM »
If you need any help setting up the governor shoot me a pm. It's really not that difficult to get setup.

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Re: N5C Vbar NEO PITCH! Worried!
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2017, 10:20:23 PM »
Thank you L. I'm sure I'll hit you up this weekend if you don't mind. I'm not used to any of the terminology of Vbar and I don't think I'll ever be certain of the terminology of Futaba. L. I love my 18SZ but it's wording and menu structure are very odd things.

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Re: N5C Vbar NEO PITCH! Worried!
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2017, 08:00:59 PM »
I don't mind it's no problem.