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Synergy Nitro Helicopters => Synergy N5 / N5c => Topic started by: Rodney Kirstine on February 20, 2013, 01:45:02 PM
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So, I sold my 6HV the other day so I could buy an N5C and fill out my Synergy fleet...
Here's what I've bought, so far.
O.S. 55HZ-R DRS with a Hatori SAB-55
Align 610 cyclic servos
Align 655 rudder servo
Align 520 throttle servo
SK540 FBL controller
Still haven't decided if I'm going to go with 2S Lipo and a regulator or run a 2S LiFe pack, unregulated. I've been running LiFe packs on my E5 and E7 with really good results so I may just go that route.
As far as a glow igniter, is there any big advantage or disadvantage of one that's transmitter activated versus push-button?
I have some brand new nitro field equipment that I bought quite a while back when I was going to fly planks. I have a Sullivan starter and fuel pump. I just need to get a starter extension.
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Go Rodney!
I have a switch glo on mine operated by both a switch and the throttle. Mixing required. At low throttle with the switch on it is active. The audible warning is nice! At 1/3 throttle its off or of course with the switch. After about 20 seconds it does also shut itself off. You must rearm by flipping the switch again.
I also use a gryphon regulator with a 2s 2100mah lipo. I also use their external switch mounted towards the rear of the frame. Makes is much easier to get at the switch. If you like I'll post photos of my setup. Very clean using the CGY750.
Cheers
Alan
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Oh. Advantages of the igniter activated on radio. You can flip it on easier when walking out to the flight line if needed. Especially on those cold days. That has saved me a trip back to get the starter. Push button works okay also. I had one on an N5.
Alan
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I thought I like my 6HV until I flew my first Synergy. I've gone full Synergy fleet now, except for N5C, because I like electric.
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Congrats! I personally use PushGlo as I didn't want to fuss with assigning a switch ETC although they always have seemed nice. Anything remote beats charging and using a separate glow igniter and even potentially having to remove the canopy to do so.
Regards,
Brandon Bartolomucci
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I also use a gryphon regulator with a 2s 2100mah lipo. I also use their external switch mounted towards the rear of the frame. Makes is much easier to get at the switch. If you like I'll post photos of my setup. Very clean using the CGY750.
I was thinking that if I decide to go lipo and use a regulator, I'd go with a Gryphon regulator and their pin flag locks.
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Yes. The Vega works great! Several switch choices.
http://www.experiencerc.com/store/gryphon_vega_regulator_linear_voltage_regulator_gvr-5010-p-9725.html (http://www.experiencerc.com/store/gryphon_vega_regulator_linear_voltage_regulator_gvr-5010-p-9725.html)
Alan
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Yes. The Vega works great! Several switch choices.
http://www.experiencerc.com/store/gryphon_vega_regulator_linear_voltage_regulator_gvr-5010-p-9725.html (http://www.experiencerc.com/store/gryphon_vega_regulator_linear_voltage_regulator_gvr-5010-p-9725.html)
Alan
I actually had that in my shopping cart, along with the pinflag led switch. I'm leaning more toward going with LiFe packs, though. I did order my SK540 and the throttle servo from Experience RC today to take advantage of the 10% off sale.
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Got the nitro Bug huh Rodney?
Looking good. I run that same motor in my Nightbird it's a real powerhouse. Quite a bit easier to tune for a newbie like me.
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Got the nitro Bug huh Rodney?
Looking good. I run that same motor in my Nightbird it's a real powerhouse. Quite a bit easier to tune for a newbie like me.
Yeah, I don't have any good reason to get one because I really like my electrics a lot. But then, I don't have to explain it to any of you because you all already get it. ;D
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haha Rodney, now you'll have all the Synergy helis currently in production. All I'm missing is the E7 and I'm running out of willpower quickly. :) The N5C is my favorite so far and the E5-s is a close second.
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i went with the gryphon vega reg and the gryphon auto booster for glow start,,great combo, i also have a sk540 on mine so let me know if you need any help with setup
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Got the nitro Bug huh Rodney?
Looking good. I run that same motor in my Nightbird it's a real powerhouse. Quite a bit easier to tune for a newbie like me.
What motor do you have on your other one? Just curious.
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Got the nitro Bug huh Rodney?
Looking good. I run that same motor in my Nightbird it's a real powerhouse. Quite a bit easier to tune for a newbie like me.
What motor do you have on your other one? Just curious.
OS 55HZ-R DRS on the night bird
YS60R on the other.
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The OS 55HZR-DRS is an animal of an engine! Great choice! :)
on the glow side, have a look at the Gryphon Mini Auto Booster. Its small and light and takes up very little room, it is a touch switch type but also has an automatic feature.
Check them out here:http://www.experiencerc.com/store/gryphon_mini_auto_booster_%28touch_switch_type%29_gab-3300-p-11200.html
or here:http://www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/gryphon_mini_auto_booster_%28touch_switch_type%29_gab-3300-p-19178.html
Cheers,
Ross
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I ended up deciding I'm going to run straight LiFe packs. I also ordered a Switchglo. Now all I need to do is find an air frame, LOL.
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Experience is showing stock, low mind you but they have at least 1!
http://www.experiencerc.com/store/synergy_contender_belt_drive_(flybarless)_n5-999-302-p-8890.html (http://www.experiencerc.com/store/synergy_contender_belt_drive_(flybarless)_n5-999-302-p-8890.html)
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Well, I think I now have everything purchased and on the way, except for fuel. I'm going to run to my LHS today and see what they've got. I don't have high hopes, though. They carry more RPG (funny shaped dice type not the terrorist shoulder-fired type) equipment than helicopter equipment. They do have a lot of RC car stuff, though, so they probably have some fuel.
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Well, I think I now have everything purchased and on the way, except for fuel. I'm going to run to my LHS today and see what they've got. I don't have high hopes, though. They carry more RPG (funny shaped dice type not the terrorist shoulder-fired type) equipment than helicopter equipment. They do have a lot of RC car stuff, though, so they probably have some fuel.
excellent!
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I got my air frame today and I've been working on assembly. I need to look through some of the pictures on here and see what other people have done for electronics mounting and wire routing. I won't have blades until Monday but hopefully I'll get to at least fire the motor up and check that out tomorrow.
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I got my air frame today and I've been working on assembly. I need to look through some of the pictures on here and see what other people have done for electronics mounting and wire routing. I won't have blades until Monday but hopefully I'll get to at least fire the motor up and check that out tomorrow.
If you need any help let me know! This new N5c of mine came out great. Easy to wire up!
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Thanks Chris! Luckily there are a lot of great pictures here to look over for ideas and also lots of you guys to answer the questions that a picture won't help with...
I've got it mostly figured out now. I just ran into one small stumbling block. I have an Align governor sensor and it's got the wrong connector on it for what I need. I don't have servo connector pins and housings to just put a new one on but I have some odds and ends laying around so I might just go ahead and cut it and solder on a small extension with a servo connector. I'm also going to have to hit my LHS tomorrow and pick up some misc. fuel line fittings and some fuel line.
The motor I bought didn't come with a gasket for the pipe so I'm also going to have to either use high temp RTV or high temp epoxy to seal it.
Other than that, it's coming along rather quickly.
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Be aware the align gov sensor is wired different. Positive isn't red. Check out the forums. You have to switch two wires and which ones are escaping me at the moment.
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Man, I'm glad I mentioned that sensor, then! Thanks Chris. I'll do some searching and see if I can find the info.
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I had my maiden flight this morning, in 30 mph winds... The flight was going really well until about 2 minutes in when one of the nuts holding the pipe on decided to work its way off of the screw. I wanted to redo the seal, anyway, so I'm doing that right now. Hopefully the wind calms down a bit so I can give it another go later.
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Wow Rodney, you are brave maidening with 30 mile per hour winds. :)
You may as well check all your nuts and bolts. If you forgot to loctite anything, they work their way out quicker on a nitro.
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Yesterday turned out to be a beautiful day, it was 60 degrees and calm. I was able to try the maiden again. It looks like I need to redo my throttle linkage because it's binding and WOT and sticking. I couldn't get the Skookum setup software to run on my parent's PC so I only flew one tank and wasn't able to make any adjustments.
The motor is definitely running rich, it's spitting out quite a bit of fuel but I am nervous about tuning. I have already adjusted the high speed needle 14 clicks in from where the manual says to start and it's still really rich. Since I'm new to this, I'm not sure what to expect as far as how many clicks I'll end up having to adjust it.
Rodney
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Well for starters unless you are really in it, you aren't on the high speed needle as much as you think. I would put the high speed needle back rich a few clicks. 14 seems like A LOT.
I am still a noob as tuning nitro, I am hoping to get some advice to further tune my machines while in BHam this weekend. Right now, my OS55 is completely stock rich and running great. I may just leave it!
Keep in mind too, fuel makes a huge difference. I put Cool power in a YS60SR tuned on Wild cat, bone dry forced auto at 4:10. Next tank put Wild Cat, room to spare at 5 minutes!
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It was still spewing fuel and a big cloud of smoke at WOT during a full pitch climb.
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Going to have oil all over everything, that's normal. Are you sure it's fuel and not just oil?
Some fuels smoke more than others. What fuel are you running?
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Cool power low smoke. After I get the throttle servo/linkage fixed I'll probably go back to the beginning needle settings and start from scratch on the tuning.