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Synergy Electric Helicopters => Synergy E7SE => E7SE Tips & Tricks => Topic started by: Matt Botos on June 04, 2012, 11:07:39 PM

Title: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: Matt Botos on June 04, 2012, 11:07:39 PM
When assembling the auto hub, make sure you loctite your bronze bushings into place. These bushings are what keep the inner sleeve centered in the one way clutch. You do not want these bushings floating around! :)

Thanks,

Matt
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: Chris Sexton on June 06, 2012, 01:35:52 PM
Would you recommend the green retainer loctite or something else?
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: Matt Botos on June 07, 2012, 12:15:13 PM
Green retaining loctite would be the perfect but Red works just as well.

Thanks,

Matt
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: Chris Sexton on June 07, 2012, 01:20:24 PM
Thanks, still have mine apart on the bench from the Memorial day bash, I will fix mine up tonight :)
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: Lojik on January 20, 2013, 07:23:23 PM
When locktiting this part do we just put a thin layer on the rim, i'm guessing getting any below the bushing might inter-fear with the actual bearing correct?

Jack
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: flyalan on January 20, 2013, 07:26:46 PM
Yes thin layer on the outer edge of the bushing has worked for me.  You do not want nay loctite seeping down into the one way.

Cheers
Alan
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: Lojik on January 20, 2013, 07:29:31 PM
Yes thin layer on the outer edge of the bushing has worked for me.  You do not want nay loctite seeping down into the one way.

Cheers
Alan

Thanks Alan, any tips to get the correct amount on there, should I put it on the bushing's rim and push it in (maybe with a cotton bud) or should I put it on the hub and push the bushing in?

p.s sorry for what might be a simple question but not done this before.
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: flyalan on January 20, 2013, 07:40:45 PM
No problem!

Just a thin layer not a bead.  If any runs onto the surface you will place inwards towards the one way be sure to wipe it off before inserting.  It's really not much to worry about as long as you don't get crazy with the amount used.  Let it sit for a while or gently heat with a hair dryer/heat gun. That will help the Loctite set up quicker.

Alan
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: Lojik on January 20, 2013, 07:45:49 PM
No problem!

Just a thin layer not a bead.  If any runs onto the surface you will place inwards towards the one way be sure to wipe it off before inserting.  It's really not much to worry about as long as you don't get crazy with the amount used.  Let it sit for a while or gently heat with a hair dryer/heat gun. That will help the Loctite set up quicker.

Alan

Thanks, I build my heli's in the garage and its currently 95-100degF here as its summer so keeping it warm wont be an issue :)

one quick question as its to do with this hub, I was told by a few here in AU that they used Triflow on the bearing to help keep it smooth, is this right and if so how would you apply it?
Title: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: flyalan on January 20, 2013, 08:10:37 PM
Don't use grease or a thick lubricant. I have been using some of the Scorpion oil used on motor bearings.

Alan


Alan Butler
Team Synergy
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: RichL on January 22, 2013, 03:28:56 AM
Triflow works fine for the one way bearing.  Just add 3 or 4 drops directly to the bearing it's self.  Triflow also works well on the main shaft and the tail slider.

Rich
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: Tom W. on May 26, 2013, 11:23:37 AM
Hi

Sorry, maybe my english is to bad. Which part is the "bronze bushing"?

Thx and regards from Switzerland
Thomas
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: flyalan on May 26, 2013, 11:36:46 AM
The bronze inserts on both ends of the main hub assembly/one way bearing. Be careful to not get red locktite into the one-way.  Only takes a thin film on the outer edges of the bronze bushings.


Cheers
Alan

Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: Tom W. on May 26, 2013, 11:40:35 AM
thx Alan
Title: E7se - Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: al_voisine on August 28, 2013, 08:08:48 AM
On my E7se the hub is pre-assembled and the bronze bushing is in there very tight.  The only way to get it out that I can see is to get a couple of sockets and press it out in a vise.  Looks like it would work from either side.

Should I try to press it out in order to apply the loctite?? 

I'm a little gun-shy about taking it apart and possibly damaging stuff. 

Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: flyalan on August 28, 2013, 08:17:04 AM
You can try both heat and cold and se if they will come out.  If that does not work I think you are good to go.  The red Loctite should not be needed if they are that tight. I would check them periodically though.
 
Cheers
Alan
Title: Heat & Cold Worked for Only one side
Post by: al_voisine on August 28, 2013, 06:41:42 PM
Thanks, Allan!

I put it in the freezer for about 45 minutes.  Then I hit it with the heat gun on the outside.  One of them fell right out.  The other one will not budge.  Tried twice.  Will give it another go in the AM.  If it won't come out then I will green Loctite the one that came out and consider it good to go.

Thanks again!

Al
Title: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: flyalan on August 28, 2013, 08:48:53 PM
Thanks, Allan!

I put it in the freezer for about 45 minutes.  Then I hit it with the heat gun on the outside.  One of them fell right out.  The other one will not budge.  Tried twice.  Will give it another go in the AM.  If it won't come out then I will green Loctite the one that came out and consider it good to go.

Thanks again!

Al

Sounds good... Glad it partially worked :-)

Alan


Alan Butler
Team Synergy
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: Jon Mills on October 07, 2013, 06:20:21 AM
I know the green Loctite is a whicking type meaning it will seep in between the hub and the bushing. If the bushing seems like it won't come out, you would be better off to lay it on the table bushing up and put a small drip on the rim of the bushing and the hub. Use your finger to spread the SMALL drip around the circle and leave it to set for a hour or two and Bamm! Keep in mind when removing this and any part with Loctite on it for that matter you must use heat.  Especially with the green and red.  These two compounds will hold tight, but a good amount of heat and both will come loose as easy as a non treated thread.



Jon Mills
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: kosmik on October 10, 2013, 06:29:09 PM
Hi there

Just bought a e7se and assembling it together right now. i'm now on the main gear assembly, as i take it apart i see that there is a Delrin Shim missing, i have only one. according to the manual there should be two Delrin Shims. are both shims necessary or does it work with one as well?

thank you for your support.

marlon
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: Fasster on October 10, 2013, 07:29:26 PM
you need both , i know this may sound silly , but make sure its not stuck to the main gear or possibly dropped on the floor  , i lost mine for a minute or 2 ,  was stuck to the main gear   :)
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: kosmik on October 11, 2013, 02:22:27 AM
Hi Fasster thanks for your reply, unfortunately i didn't drop nor its stuck in the gear, i checked it already a few times but only one was packed. anyway i think i'll hv to inform my dealer where i bought it from.
thank you
Title: Re: Loctite your bronze bushings!
Post by: helimike on October 11, 2013, 08:53:01 AM
My kit had 1 missing as well.  Luckily my dealer (King Kong Hobby - a great place to do business with by the way) had them in stock!