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Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on January 29, 2013, 07:52:53 PM
Setting up my first 12S set up with PRC6's
Been working with electricity for years and wanted to ask a dumb question that I think I know the answer to.

With a series cable wye can you ever connect anything incorrectly?
My answer is no?

Do you hook up both batteries first before connecting them to the ESC?
My answer is yes?

Any other precautions that are recommended?

Will be soldering up the connections this weekend for the 6s 5000 Opti-Powers.

Does anyone condition the battiers before flight or durring flight.

Purchased a solder station with 60w at max of 800 degrees.
Going to re-tin the wires first. Doses any one use flux on the inside the connectors?





Title: Re: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: flyalan on January 29, 2013, 08:00:51 PM
Yes you can hook things up incorrectly.

I take a slightly different approach.  Only two connector sets required.  See photo..

If you are wondering, the ESC connectors were colored black to aid in not connecting two batts together.  This can be done with PRC 6's.  Preferably I would use the blue PRC 6's on the ESC with the rule only plug red into blue.  Or in this case red into black.  Hope that makes sense.

Cheers
Alan

Title: Re: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: flyalan on January 29, 2013, 08:02:29 PM
Also note that you would hook up one battery at a time with this scenario.
I don't condition batteries the first time just charge and go. 

Alan
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on January 29, 2013, 08:09:26 PM
So basically you just eliminated one connector, that cool!  Less clutter.
This doesn't bother the ESC's not bringing the final running voltage online at the same time?


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Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on January 29, 2013, 08:15:02 PM
So your warning for having different color connectors is to protect you from hooking the two batteries together correct?

I will have to check to see if the battery wires are long enough to set this up this way.
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: flyalan on January 29, 2013, 08:32:58 PM
So basically you just eliminated one connector, that cool!  Less clutter.
This doesn't bother the ESC's not bringing the final running voltage online at the same time?


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We are talking about a series connection?  Just to be sure.

The ESC would not see any voltage until the second pack was connected.

Alan


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Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: flyalan on January 29, 2013, 08:37:46 PM
So your warning for having different color connectors is to protect you from hooking the two batteries together correct?

I will have to check to see if the battery wires are long enough to set this up this way.

Mine leads are long steno ugh to make this a possibility.  I have not done this to date due to the black on the ESC connectors.

Connecting the batts together can be done and that is why some folks shy away from PRC 6's.

Alan


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Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on January 29, 2013, 08:53:37 PM
Great thanks. No brainer on the second connection to complete a circuit.
Just haven't done it my self yet.

Thanks for the info!

Barry
Title: Re: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: sochize1 on January 30, 2013, 06:20:24 PM
I use prc6 and just put female on batts and male on esc just like ec5. They seem to work good this way and you can not hook them up wrong in this config
Title: Re: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: RichL on January 31, 2013, 12:13:47 AM
I use prc6 and just put female on batts and male on esc just like ec5. They seem to work good this way and you can not hook them up wrong in this config

I would not recommend installing them in this fashion for a few reasons.  First, each bullet connector is sized specifically to be used on one side of the connector. Second, if you ever need to use a charging station other than your own (Fun-fly) you would be unable to do so if you didn't have your own special charging lead in your pocket. Third, you would never be able to borrow or lend a battery to anyone using the PRC6 connectors in the standard configuration. I have never heard of anyone being able to connect a PRC6 connector in reverse polarity.

Rich

   
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: flyalan on January 31, 2013, 03:24:04 AM

I would not recommend installing them in this fashion for a few reasons.  First, each bullet connector is sized specifically to be used on one side of the connector. Second, if you ever need to use a charging station other than your own (Fun-fly) you would be unable to do so if you didn't have your own special charging lead in your pocket. Third, you would never be able to borrow or lend a battery to anyone using the PRC6 connectors in the standard configuration. I have never heard of anyone being able to connect a PRC6 connector in reverse polarity.

Rich

 
Spot on Rich!  When I switched to PRC 6's I bought charge cables from experience. They would not have worked if one used a non-standard configuration. 
Sometimes it's ok to be different. Probably not with the battery connector setup. Plus I frequently offer up my charging station at events. Of course that would take care of a charging leach:-)

Cheers
Alan

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Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on January 31, 2013, 07:10:00 AM
Yes I do like the EC5 set up but don't think this would protect you from a short with out having a different shape hole on one side.

If my wires reach I will try the wye built into the ESC.
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on February 02, 2013, 09:47:44 PM
Looks like I do have enough for a ESC wye. Any way to get theses PRC6 off the bullet with out killing the housing? Probably not worth it?
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: flyalan on February 02, 2013, 10:04:41 PM
Yes. I have done it. Gently warm the housing with a heat gun on low setting or a hair dryer. This will expand the housing enough to allow you to push the bullet back through. Be careful when doing this with the male bullet. You need something with a blunt tip. I think I used a 450 size spindle shaft.

Alan


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Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on February 03, 2013, 09:07:57 AM
Lost this battle! Don't think my wife's hair dryer gets warm enough. Cut them off with the Dremel. Looks nice and clean now!
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: flyalan on February 03, 2013, 10:50:22 AM
I use an old monokote gun. Works great especially with heat shrink tubing.


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Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on February 03, 2013, 11:22:21 AM
Need to pick one up.
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on February 04, 2013, 07:18:16 PM
 :)
Title: Re: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: RichL on February 04, 2013, 09:45:07 PM
I use an old monokote gun. Works great especially with heat shrink tubing.


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Team Synergy

+1 on the old airplane heat gun, works great.

Rich
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: flyalan on February 05, 2013, 02:03:27 AM
Yes. Being an ex-planker has its advantages:-)

Alan


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Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on February 08, 2013, 09:30:10 AM
http://vimeo.com/58857745
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on February 12, 2013, 05:55:31 PM
Ok bright light bad? Love the PC6 connectors hate them? Should have marked them like I was told.
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: flyalan on February 12, 2013, 06:04:27 PM
Hummmmm. Wonder how that happened :-)
Sometimes we have to learn from the school of hard knocks. Been there just not in regards to connectors.

Cheers
Alan


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Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on February 12, 2013, 06:38:02 PM
Thought you would appreciate my complacent wire connections. Going to sharpie the ESC connectors. Maybe order some blue ones. Good new already fixed. I think the batteries can handed a little welding.

Now if I could just get yhe spot out of
my eyes when I blink!
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: flyalan on February 12, 2013, 06:47:23 PM
Quote

Now if I could just get he spot out of
my eyes when I blink!
LOL!
At least it did not result in a fire.
Let me know if you find any of the blue ones anywhere.  I have seen them but haven't found them in stock anywhere.

Cheers
Alan

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Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on February 12, 2013, 07:35:31 PM
Progressive has them.
No kidding burn the heli to the ground on the fifth flight.
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on February 13, 2013, 03:04:16 PM
Strange the flash EMF from hooking the batteries together reset or erased he Kontronik 120HV program. Went to plug it in and nothing happened. Reset up the Kontronik program to mode 4 and works now. Never even connected it?
Title: PRC6 Connectors and the Wye for 12s
Post by: Barry Tilson on March 02, 2013, 03:41:55 PM
Installed my blue connectors to help out with not hooking the batteries together.