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Synergy Nitro Helicopters => Synergy N5 / N5c => Topic started by: Chris Sexton on June 17, 2013, 07:46:46 PM

Title: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: Chris Sexton on June 17, 2013, 07:46:46 PM
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I was asked about my recent change to iKon on my N5c, more specifically how I end up tuning the GOV and Cyclic feel.  I am creating a thread to discuss my iKon FBL conversion and my setup notes.

I will post my setup files as I make changes. After just 4 flights I am already up to v3 on my setup.

Started out with everything at the default gains for both the gov and the cyclic ( default 600 ).  After just one flight I had to adjust the overall gov gain down a bit and I took the I gain down a bit too. The head was holding speed on in circuits but in any hard collective moves it was over speeding badly. Brought the P gain down to 40 and the I gain down two clicks. Sorry cant remember the number off hand.

Two more flights this way. The gov feels a lot better. A little over speeding at the top of a hard full collective climb out but recovers quickly and it seems much improved in circuits and basic aerobatics ( tic tocs and funnels ).

I did adjust the agility down to 85 prior to the fourth flight. Cyclic is perfect for my there and the Heli really responded well.  If I hadn't ran out of time i would have easily flown a few more tonight. But life calls :)

I will post the files of my setup progression shortly. Need to get my laptop out.

One other note, on the fourth flight I started doing some full collective diving speed runs.  At full clip the elevator wanted to pull up uncommanded, the pull seemed to be worse the faster I pushed it. I will be adjusting the Elevator P gain as soon as I get the helis in out of the car.

Currently there are 3 revisions to my setup, a 4th coming after I adjust the Elevator a touch.

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Title: Re: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: Chris Sexton on June 18, 2013, 08:55:27 AM
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Added a Bluetooth module to my iKon last night. Now with my Android Tablet, I can field adjust the setup without having to power down or drag out the laptop!

Screen shots of my setup software once I get it working :)

Here is a link to the BlueTooth adapter I am using.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/150951901947...84.m1439.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/150951901947...84.m1439.l2649)

It does require a little pre-programming. mtuccio set mine up for me. He did a little video on the process here.

Brain / iKon / TracX Flybarless System - Bluetooth Connection and Android App (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoKCwgC_UUQ#)
Title: Re: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: Rodney Kirstine on June 18, 2013, 12:37:27 PM
That's really cool!
Title: Re: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: flyalan on June 18, 2013, 02:30:55 PM
Back when I was flying mostly VBar I had an android tablet just for that purpose.  A lot more convenient than the laptop. On the VBar I could leave the bluetooth adapter plugged in.  What about the IKon Chris?


Cheers
Alan
Title: Re: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: Chris Sexton on June 18, 2013, 03:56:24 PM
Yep BT is mounted to the heli :)

Now unlike Vbar, you can't get live data, meaning it won't let you spin up while the BT is in setup mode. But all you have to do is shut down the app on the tablet and the iKon initializes.
Title: Re: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: Greg Jackson on June 27, 2013, 11:21:59 PM
How do to like the ikon compared to Vbar?
Title: Re: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: Chris Sexton on June 28, 2013, 07:49:39 AM
How do to like the ikon compared to Vbar?

Still getting the iKon dialed in, but so far it's good. If you blind folded me and made me pick one or the other at random, I would be very happy with either.

Once I get a bit more tuning and setup experience with the iKon, it won't take as long to dial in new setups. I have done soooo many vbars, it's almost auto pilot ;)
Title: Re: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: Greg Jackson on June 28, 2013, 10:35:33 AM
That's the thing, I'm pretty used to Vbar but I have only done 2.  But flying blindfolded would be the next greatest trick out there!!!
Title: Re: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: Greg Jackson on June 28, 2013, 04:43:40 PM
Is there a big difference between the new ikon and the first ones?
Title: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: Chris Sexton on June 28, 2013, 05:13:20 PM
Only difference is the case and new polarity protected pins.


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Title: Re: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: Greg Jackson on June 28, 2013, 07:01:33 PM
So it isn't that big of a difference then.  I should be ok without the polarity protection, I don't think it has ever killed me before not having it.
Title: Re: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: Chris Sexton on June 30, 2013, 09:13:02 PM
Finally got my N5c gov and cyclic feeling perfect!

I attached my iKon setup file for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Synergy N5c - iKon FBL GOV and Cyclic Tuning
Post by: Greg Jackson on July 02, 2013, 10:24:43 AM
Once I get an ikon that will really help a lot.