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Synergy Nitro Helicopters => Synergy N5 / N5c => Topic started by: peteowlsmith on April 06, 2016, 07:49:51 AM

Title: N5c parts
Post by: peteowlsmith on April 06, 2016, 07:49:51 AM
Hi,

I started to get my Wisconsin N5c's ready for Spring, but found virtually no parts in stock anywhere (let alone full kits).   Specifically fuel tank and main / tail shafts.

 Are the part elfs hibernating????    :(
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Tommy Wagner on April 06, 2016, 07:55:32 AM
 synergy store  has them.   http://mattbotos.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=0&products_id=1300


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Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: peteowlsmith on April 07, 2016, 04:49:50 AM
Hi Tommy,

Thanks for the link!   Unfortunately I need two Stopper Grommets  106-810 and one fuel tank stopper 110-331 .

I decimated them when removing to replace the clunk lines     :'( :'(

Going to local hardware store, they had grommets that were close, but no cigar...
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Rodney Kirstine on April 07, 2016, 10:10:11 AM
Here you go...

http://www.fblrotors.com/Fuel-Tank-Stopper-Grommet_p_153.html (http://www.fblrotors.com/Fuel-Tank-Stopper-Grommet_p_153.html)
http://www.fblrotors.com/Fuel-Tank-Stopper_p_204.html (http://www.fblrotors.com/Fuel-Tank-Stopper_p_204.html)
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: peteowlsmith on April 07, 2016, 12:34:30 PM
Argggg - I forgot about Flybarless Rotors!     I have the mat and the ball link pliers - just LOVE THEM!!!!   

Soon I will be replumbing  - order placed  :>

Thanks Rodney!!!!!
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Rodney Kirstine on April 07, 2016, 02:38:28 PM
 :D  You're welcome!
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Richard Rollins on April 07, 2016, 08:30:15 PM
Good going Rodney.
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Paul66 on April 09, 2016, 07:17:26 PM
Hi Guys I have a similar issue and require the same parts but it appears in Australia we don't have the same access, local vendor is all out ( ARKRC , 1800kms away is local!) so trying to find a vendor that can ship at a reasonable price and I see Matts shop has no International shipping unless I am mistaken.
I am very frustrated at present as I have two birds N5 and N5c that are out of action. any suggestions.
It appears parts over here are getting harder to source is the models going to be discontinued??

  :( :( :(

Thanks
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: alan on April 09, 2016, 09:43:41 PM
No the N5C isn't going anywhere. Have you asked ARKRC when they will be restocking? I am also a dealer and would like to help. PM me and let me know what you need.
Cheers
Alan


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Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Paul66 on April 11, 2016, 04:47:23 AM
Hi Alan, thanks for the offer,  I was after the fuel tank stopper grommets*4, nothing expensive, just seem to be elusive, as I have just split one whilst servicing the N5.

Thanks
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Thunder Fighter on April 12, 2016, 06:02:42 AM
I know there is a large parts order for the 766 shipping soon to ARKRC, get in touch with Josh and check the parts for the N5 you need are in the order. There is a whole wall of parts for Synergy at the shop, but sometimes they do run out of specific parts between orders.

//Dennis.
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Paul66 on April 12, 2016, 06:19:13 AM
Hi Dennis thanks for that, It just seems frustrating that no vendors have the clutch assembly or the fuel tank stopper grommets in stock at present which seems very strange for all to be out, which raises concerns regards the supply chain, and is frustrating when you can't fly at the weekend because of a lack of parts.

Cheers
Paul
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Mike Spano on April 12, 2016, 07:37:39 AM
Paul,
       It shouldn't raise any concern at all with the actual "supply chain". I am steadily buying parts for my N5C as I need them. It is your local dealer that seems to have dropped the ball. The N5C is the best 600 class nitro on the market, it seems that any synergy dealer would keep the parts in stock, but sounds like your particular one isn't. Sorry about that, but there is nothing wrong with Synergy or the machine shop. Posts like that get spread around quickly and instill fear in other customers and potential customers that are looking to purchase and doing research. I think it is important to point out that Synergy is still producing parts and they are available, it is your dealer that is out.
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: cml001 on April 12, 2016, 09:09:35 AM
Agreed.. Best 600 nitro... Ever!.. I actually prefer ordering my Synergy parts straight from the Synergy store.. Rarely are they out of anything.. The shipping is the fastest of any online store I've ever ordered from... While I do support my local HS.. They don't even carry Synergy product.. But the Synergy online store does & is open 24-7! Alan at Helilids or Ralph at FBL Rotors are also great guys to order from! ;)
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: peteowlsmith on April 13, 2016, 08:43:05 AM
I have to chime in...

This thread was started since the "big box" suppliers were out of stock on the parts I needed.   Looking at the other parts listed on their websites, the proverbial cupboard was bare.  Even mattbotos.com was out of stock on the parts - still is.

Thank goodness for FBLRotors.   Helilids does not show stock status, so I was reticient to place order just to have it backordered.   Alan did respond to my Contact request, but by then I had material ordered from Ralph.

I am realistic enough to know that someone cannot stock everything, but when the Source of the parts is out of stock, I get scared and start to look at other helicopter manufacturers.  It seems to me most of the US is not in  exactly prime flying time, and to not find parts in stock is scary.

Been burned three times -- Hirobo,  MA, and then Thunder Tiger.   Retirement is coming up and I cannot afford switching horses again.

Not starting a "whining" thread -- just bring up awareness.
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Chris Sexton on April 13, 2016, 03:01:01 PM
I have to chime in...

This thread was started since the "big box" suppliers were out of stock on the parts I needed.   Looking at the other parts listed on their websites, the proverbial cupboard was bare.  Even mattbotos.com was out of stock on the parts - still is.

Thank goodness for FBLRotors.   Helilids does not show stock status, so I was reticient to place order just to have it backordered.   Alan did respond to my Contact request, but by then I had material ordered from Ralph.

I am realistic enough to know that someone cannot stock everything, but when the Source of the parts is out of stock, I get scared and start to look at other helicopter manufacturers.  It seems to me most of the US is not in  exactly prime flying time, and to not find parts in stock is scary.

Been burned three times -- Hirobo,  MA, and then Thunder Tiger.   Retirement is coming up and I cannot afford switching horses again.

Not starting a "whining" thread -- just bring up awareness.

I can completely understand your concern, you certainly did have a bad run of luck with those brands. But Synergy isn't going anywhere and all product lines are still fully supported.  Matt got a parts order in, and most of the common parts are back in stock.  The more common items tend to sell out fast at Matt's store because the "Big box" retailers as you call them, have standing resupply orders.  If you can't find a part in stock, back order it and your part will ship as soon as they come in.  Now that we are in the swing of the season parts orders are frequent.  Your favorite big box stores should be restocked very soon too.

I just put all the common N5c crash parts in my cart, main/tail shafts, spindle, boom, TT, control rod, boom supports, skids, gears, all in stock at Matt's store.  The season is here, let's have a ton of fun!
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: peteowlsmith on April 13, 2016, 03:35:26 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: alan on April 13, 2016, 07:49:50 PM
For future reference my stock status is always available online.  If it's not in stock it will say "out of stock" when you pull up the item.
Glad ralph helped you out.

Cheers

Alan
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: peteowlsmith on April 13, 2016, 08:11:32 PM
Sorry Alan - my bad - next order will be with you!   (and I love the canopy I got from  you)
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: alan on April 13, 2016, 10:32:53 PM
No worries. Ralph and I are buddies and help each other take care of the synergy customers. I buy Ralph's links. He buys my lids...lol


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Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Paul66 on April 14, 2016, 05:13:22 AM
Fortunately here in Oz we do not have a season which stops flying, especially QLD, so fly all year round, so spares need to be in stock all year round, but I still cannot see anyone who has the fuel tank stopper grommet, not exactly a high commodity item. Fortunately after to speaking with the Australian distributor the shop assistant has one spare, of their own personal stash and has offered to pass it on. I do want to fly and have fun, but difficult without the parts. Unfortunately unless the "big box supplier" have it the postage appears too expensive to ship and even Matts site does not have the part! So as much as some feel it wrong to make a comment or raise a concern, my personal concern not everyone's, but if I do not make a comment and the supplier does not listen then how will the vendor improve its performance, not having spares will do more damage than any of my remarks.
Question if this is not an open forum to make comment and ask a genuine question without people feeling being attacked then I will hold my piece in future, consider my purchases more carefully with people whom are genuinely interested in improving service and building a relationship with there clients.
I am thankful and happy for the shops response after my call to them today (Thanks -Josh), but to here they did not receive parts due to none in stock from source is not good.
So a simple question who has part# 106-810 Synergy Fuel Stank Stopper Grommet?? that can ship at a sensible price.
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: peteowlsmith on April 14, 2016, 07:29:39 AM
Hoi Paul,

I totally agree.  Far too often we take the "Emperor's New Clothes" approach on forums for issues like this.

Happy flying!!!

   Pete
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: alan on April 14, 2016, 09:10:23 PM
In regards to Sensible shipping price? There is not one to Australia. One thing I have realized is that shipping out of the US definitely is more expensive than shipping  into the US. And we wonder why there is a trade deficit?
Anyway after thoroughly researching rates yesterday and today there is not a cheap shopping option to Australia. Unless of course the retailer is willing to eat part of the shipping cost. Pretty sure that the big box guys aren't going to eat huge shipping costs either.
The best I can do with small boxes to Australia, 2x3x4 or so, is $15.50. This is First Class Mail and will take 10-15 days to arrive. If we shoot for 5-7 days we can do DHL for about $25 but size of the package is still a problem. We don't even want to discuss Fedex or UPS unless the order is substantial.

I am sure this is the struggle ARKRC deals with. To keep prices reasonable they must wait until they have a reasonable size order.
I have also dipped into my personal stash on numerous occasions when needed to help the customer. Just as Josh did.
For that he should be commended.

Cheers
Alan


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Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Matt Botos on April 15, 2016, 02:24:49 PM
Fuel tank grommets are in stock and have not been out of stock for years. Our system may have showed them out of stock but the system was likely reflecting inventory incorrectly. If you run into anything like this again please email us directly. It's very rare for us to have anything out of stock for more that a few weeks.

Thanks,

Matt
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Matt Botos on April 15, 2016, 02:31:13 PM
Paul66,

Yes you can order directly from the USA but if course shipping is expensive for larger items. Small items can be quite reasonable using USPS first class.

No there are not plans to discontinue any models.

Your market is a completely different story from the USA. You have a single distributor that is supposed to be supplying all of Australia (customers and dealers) with parts and kits. If you have a problem with Synergy parts stock at ARK Rc please email me directly. If parts are not being kept in stock then I need to find a new distributor for Australia.

Thanks,

Matt
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: peteowlsmith on April 15, 2016, 04:08:11 PM
Woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: N5c parts
Post by: Paul66 on April 15, 2016, 06:01:37 PM
Matt
I thank you for your response and in future will communicate directly if I have another incident of parts issues, I am grateful that you clearly are interested in your customers as I was led to believe, and words from the man himself is sufficient for me, this has reassured me that this marque is here for the long term unlike other brands we could mention, which is great because I love the hobby and the machines I own and have no intention to stop flying them. As you say the Australian market is a very strange and difficult market to service and is alien in some respect to me having lived in the UK for most of my life, where parts are easily accessible and priced similarly. But the distributor in Australia needs to understand that there business is only as good as the support to the customer and this means parts are stocked for products they sell, and not think that people should wait for long periods of time between drinks ( Aussies are a thirsty bunch and I would imagine from you previous visit can testify, and if the bar is dry will move onto the next).
I like the drink and the atmosphere in this bar is great so will continue to remain a patron, again thanks for the reply and hope the marque goes from strength to strength,
It is refreshing that a manufacturer/supplier listens to a lowly customer and respond in person, so as we say "Good on yer cobber"
Best Regards
Paul :) :) :)