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Offline curmudgeon

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I will be running 606/96 blades on E5/s with 4.5:1 tail ratio.  I plan to govern HS with VBar governor at 2,150-2,200rpm.  I am using the 16mm tail servo arm recommended in the manual.

The E5 tail shaft is long enough to accommodate higher than VBar 100/100 tail values without binding.  What VBar tail travel numbers are other VBar pilots using?  100/100?  106/106?  110/110?

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Re: Tail Travel values with VBar: What VBar tail travel values to use?
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2013, 11:18:48 PM »
I believe mine are at 112 /112.  I believe VBar recommends settings between 110 - 120 assuming we are talking about the servo travel in the setup section.


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Synergy E5: Scorpion HKIII 4025-1100, CC ICE2 120HV, Rail 556/96, V-Bar Silverline

Synergy E7: Quantum 4530-500, CC ICE2 160HV, Rail 716/116, V-Bar Silverline

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Re: Tail Travel values with VBar: What VBar tail travel values to use?
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2013, 11:33:26 PM »
Yes, we are talking about the tail servo travel in the VStabi Setup>>Tail tab section.

I remember Chris Sexton recommending on another thread to not use all the tail mechanical travel.  I believe he recommended leaving a substantial gap between the tail slider and the left/right extremes.

My setup will tolerate 112/112 without binding.  I am just wondering what others have found to be optimal VBar tail travel numbers.   Thanks.

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Re: Tail Travel values with VBar: What VBar tail travel values to use?
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2013, 11:37:35 PM »
You should use all of the mechanical travel on the E5.  The belt driven E7 and N5C should not use all of the available travel.  Hope this helps.

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Synergy E5: Scorpion HKIII 4025-1100, CC ICE2 120HV, Rail 556/96, V-Bar Silverline

Synergy E7: Quantum 4530-500, CC ICE2 160HV, Rail 716/116, V-Bar Silverline

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Re: Tail Travel values with VBar: What VBar tail travel values to use?
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2013, 11:42:09 PM »
Got it.  Use all the mechanical tail travel on the E5, so around 112/112.

Just out of curiosity, why limit mechanical tail travels for belted tails?

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Re: Tail Travel values with VBar: What VBar tail travel values to use?
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2013, 11:49:22 PM »
The exposed tail output shaft was longer (toward the inside) on the belt driven models and if you were to use full throw to the inside you could stall the tail blades and cause the belt to skip teeth.


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Synergy E5: Scorpion HKIII 4025-1100, CC ICE2 120HV, Rail 556/96, V-Bar Silverline

Synergy E7: Quantum 4530-500, CC ICE2 160HV, Rail 716/116, V-Bar Silverline

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Re: Tail Travel values with VBar: What VBar tail travel values to use?
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2013, 11:51:28 PM »
Thanks Rich.

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Re: Tail Travel values with VBar: What VBar tail travel values to use?
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2013, 11:53:13 PM »
Happy to help!

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Synergy E7: Quantum 4530-500, CC ICE2 160HV, Rail 716/116, V-Bar Silverline

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Tail Travel values with VBar: What VBar tail travel values to use?
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 05:42:10 AM »
Aye rich is right. My comments about the tail travel and gap were helping a fellow synergy pilot with a belted tail.
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Re: Tail Travel values with VBar: What VBar tail travel values to use?
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2013, 09:46:08 PM »
I ended up using 110/110 on the tail.  I left about 1.5mm gap on either extreme.

How about the Yaw Rate?  I understand that "100" on the VBar is about 360°/sec.  The slider goes up to 121, but Rainer said that one can type as high as "256".  I am shooting for 600°/sec max, but the VBar numbers are dimensionless.

What Yaw Rate numbers are you guys using?  What sort of rate in °/sec would that equate?

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Re: Tail Travel values with VBar: What VBar tail travel values to use?
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2013, 07:54:45 AM »
I run my tail at 90 on yaw, and it spins plenty fast. But I am not doing smack either.  If you want higher than 100, just type the number yourself :) just make sure you press enter to transmit the setting to the vbar.
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