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Offline jclutch

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Original N5C Purchase and Support
« on: November 09, 2013, 02:12:25 PM »
I am looking forward to flying Synergy next season and want to get started with an Original Edition N5C. That being the belt tail drive taller head version. Why? Because I prefer a belt, I prefer a taller head, and I like the simple canopy colour scheme. First question; does anybody stock the original N5C kit anymore? Second question; will Synergy still be supplying parts for the original kit in the future?

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Offline Jon Mills

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Re: Original N5C Purchase and Support
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2013, 02:10:18 AM »
Question 1, yes new TT kits shipped last week. 


Question 2, Absolutely, but the original canopy scheme has been replaced with the new one. However, you can still order blank canopies and have them painted how you like.

Sorry for the delay
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Re: Original N5C Purchase and Support
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2013, 10:14:44 AM »
The N5C belt version is still available as a kit and for parts support. As mentioned above, the only difference now is that all N5C kits will be shipped with the new N5C TT edition canopies.

I do see that FBL Rotors has the original canopy scheme in-stock if your set on one of those:
http://www.fblrotors.com/N5C-Stock-Canopy_p_104.html

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Re: Original N5C Purchase and Support
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2013, 10:24:48 AM »
I haven't seen any of the original kits in stock at any of the websites I've been looking on. Parts should not be an issue, though.  As far as the original canopy, Ralph at FBLrotors.com has some.  I haven't looked anywhere else.
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Re: Original N5C Purchase and Support
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2013, 08:42:52 PM »
Thanks guys, the original kits are few and far between as far as new ones for sale. I just want to build an established kit with the benefit of the experiences of the people who have been running it. I've had issues with torque tubes (vibes from shafts not being straight, stripped gears) from other munufacturers that have put me off of torque tubes. I'm also wary of kits that have just been released and having to do further beta testing as a consumer. I'm looking forward to building and flying a quality kit, but still want what has been tested and proven for a while. As far as the lower head block, I'm not a huge fan of lightning quick cyclic so the lowered head isn't really necessary for me. Hopefully I'll source a belt drive kit and become part of the Synergy family.

Thanks again guys, your support and the quality of Synergy products make me want to own and fly one.

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Re: Original N5C Purchase and Support
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2013, 09:58:06 PM »
To clarify, I'm talking about the original N5c Contender kit, the one that the newly release Torque Tube Edition is based on. I don't mean the the blue and orange N5, I mean the white one with blue and orange accents.

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Re: Original N5C Purchase and Support
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2013, 10:46:37 PM »
Thanks guys, the original kits are few and far between as far as new ones for sale. I just want to build an established kit with the benefit of the experiences of the people who have been running it. I've had issues with torque tubes (vibes from shafts not being straight, stripped gears) from other munufacturers that have put me off of torque tubes. I'm also wary of kits that have just been released and having to do further beta testing as a consumer. I'm looking forward to building and flying a quality kit, but still want what has been tested and proven for a while. As far as the lower head block, I'm not a huge fan of lightning quick cyclic so the lowered head isn't really necessary for me. Hopefully I'll source a belt drive kit and become part of the Synergy family.

Thanks again guys, your support and the quality of Synergy products make me want to own and fly one.

Speak to your dealer and ask them to order in a Belt N5C for you. I confirmed with Matt today that dealers are able to place orders.

I also wanted to mention that the new N5C TT has been rigorously tested before release. Matt does extensive testing on the models and once satisfied himself, provides pre-production kits to his team for further feedback before production. So rest assured that the only job for the consumer, is to go fly and enjoy their Synergy machine.   

As for your hesitation regarding Torque Tubes based on your experience with other manufacturers models... I can say that Synergy has some real beefy transmission gears with a solid design that works. They hold up extremely well to a beating :) You of-course have the option later to do a TT conversion if you desire. So you have flexibility down the road if you change your mind on this.

Anyway, let us know if you need any further assistance.

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Re: Original N5C Purchase and Support
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2013, 10:52:54 PM »
Just to clarify the N5c tt kit is the same as the belt kit with the tail and head from the e5. It is a proven design that has been out for some time. You would not be beta testing with this kit. I have been running a tt on my n5c since it was released this spring. As far as the gears stripping on other manufacturers helis, I can say as a machinist/programmer/designer the Synergy gears are far superior to what anyone else has to offer. Out of all the Synergy helis at my local field the only times I see stripped gears is due to a crash. In my honest opinion you can't go wrong with any Synergy kit you go with and I would consider the tt kit with all the latest upgrades.
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Re: Original N5C Purchase and Support
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2013, 01:00:23 AM »
I too was an early adopter of the N5C TT.  Mine was installed before Matt had even released the manual to us for review.
I have never looked back. 
The belt kit will be available if you cannot locate one. I am unsure of that time frame. I probabaly have the original belt parts around somewhere if you are interested and want to pick up a TT kit and retrofit the belt.
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Re: Original N5C Purchase and Support
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2013, 08:36:43 AM »
I also have all the belt tail parts I'm looking at selling.
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Re: Original N5C Purchase and Support
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2013, 09:41:13 AM »
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I've had issues with torque tubes (vibes from shafts not being straight, stripped gears) from other munufacturers that have put me off of torque tubes.

Other manufacturers being the key words in that sentence.  The Synergy TT setup is freaking sweet.  I broke a rear landing strut in a hard auto on my E7 and couldn't see that I had done it from where I was standing.  I spooled it back up to take off again and the tail blades were touching the ground.  By the time I hit TH, the tail blades were pretty much ground in half but none of the TT gears had any damage.  Stripped TT gears just don't happen on the Synergy.  I have broken front TT gears in hard crashes but I've never stripped one.

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I'm also wary of kits that have just been released and having to do further beta testing as a consumer. I'm looking forward to building and flying a quality kit, but still want what has been tested and proven for a while.

Again, this just isn't the case with Synergy.  Matt and the team pilots beat the crap out of the prototypes before any kits ever get released.  In the case of the N5C TT version, you basically have the well proven N5C as a starting point with the addition of the also well proven TT and head designs that are common with the E5 and E7. 

When the E5 first came out, last year, the pre-production builds that the team got went together and performed flawlessly.  I was lucky enough to get one of those kits and it was the easiest and most straight-forward build I had done.  That air frame also set a new personal best for me, at the time, of number of flights right out of the box before crashing (pilot error not part failure). 
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2013, 10:29:46 AM »
Do note that the Torque Tube design on all Synergy's are essentially the same and share many of the same parts.  The N5C uses is a slightly modified E5 TT system.  This was due to the narrower and more compact frames of the N5C.  The Synergy torque tube design is WELL proven regardless of which model we are talking about.

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Re: Original N5C Purchase and Support
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2013, 07:05:43 PM »
I'd like to thank everybody for the replies and the help. I have Ralph from FBL Rotors sourcing a kit for me as I'd be ordering building and improvement parts from there and it would save me on shipping. My only concern would be parts that may be discontinued but I'll just stock up for now. Again I'd really like to thank everybody for all the help and advice, the Synergy community is awsome and I can't wait to get building one this winter and flying it next season.

Thanks guys,

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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2013, 07:30:52 PM »
Glad to hear that.  I just got off the phone with Ralph and mentioned someone needing one.  He said he had already gotten you hooked up. 
As far as spares... Stock up on Main shafts and swash follower parts...  Head axles, grips, are still the same as the E7.  Belt drive parts should not be a problem since the N5C will still be available with the belt (but the lowered head).


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Re: Original N5C Purchase and Support
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2013, 08:33:21 PM »
Hey Guys, after all the advice and assurances about the quality of Synergy products I've ordered one of the N5c torque tube kits. The convienience of interchangable parts between models when I build another Synergy heli helped to sway my decision also.

Thanks for all the advice, assistance, and support.