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Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« on: January 30, 2014, 08:34:25 PM »
Running the KDE 700XF 495Kv and the normal 14T pinion seems to get rough fast.  That is the one that Patrick (KDE) recommended.  So, does anyone know if there will be a hard coat one like the 305-012H and 305-013H?
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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2014, 10:20:28 PM »
495kv on 12S with a 14T pinion.  That's gonna be pretty fast.  :D   What's your target head speed?

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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2014, 10:40:32 PM »
In answer to the question, I don't know. However we are running the same motors and pinions.  When I changed from 12 to 14 tooth I also replaced the main gear and have noticed substantially less pinion wear. Maybe worth a shot.

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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2014, 10:53:06 PM »
I still have yet to maiden my E7SE; too cold out for my winpy fingers.  :(


I have mine setup with the 13T hard coat pinion.  I set the VBar to govern at 2105, 2061, and 2022.  I just looks to me that the 14T pinion may be a tad high.

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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2014, 11:08:58 PM »
My target head speed is 2150 - 2200 (2150 is perfect), but when talking to Patrick he recommended the 14T for more headroom.  I have run the 13T for a while, but with my lack of collective management I do see a lot of variance in the Castle logs.
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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2014, 11:24:19 PM »
When it starts warming up, I'll get to see for myself.  Thanks.

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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2014, 12:16:30 AM »
In answer to the question, I don't know. However we are running the same motors and pinions.  When I changed from 12 to 14 tooth I also replaced the main gear and have noticed substantially less pinion wear. Maybe worth a shot.

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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2014, 07:21:05 AM »
I have the VBar governor set to 2022-2061-2105rpm with 716/106 blades using the stock 4.9:1 tail ratio.  I am waiting for the weather to cooperate so I can maiden it.


Although I am happy with the VBar, it is hard to ignore the iKon.  Great reviews, many neat features, and better price point.  I believe I will try the iKon next.

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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2014, 01:39:19 PM »
1950,2200,2400.  Most of the time is spent at 1950. 2200 works great with plenty of headroom. I only go 2400 when I get a wild hair.

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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2014, 01:44:19 PM »
1950,2200,2400.  Most of the time is spent at 1950. 2200 works great with plenty of headroom. I only go 2400 when I get a wild hair.
2400 - Wow!  I put the pole count in wrong once in the vbar gov (and only once) and ran wide open for a few seconds before realizing my error.  I did fly it for a minute and marveled at the power!
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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2014, 02:18:34 PM »
2400 is screaming how fast do you think wide open is?

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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2014, 02:20:31 PM »
What blades are you running I am using 716mm mostly.

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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2014, 03:44:25 PM »
Pretty sure it was around 2400 - 2500 (I have the Castle logs  somewhere), but it was with a smaller pinion.  Here is a video of someone running 2500 with E7 and 7000XF - http://youtu.be/47q9Qa_bbnY.
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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2014, 04:27:14 PM »
The first time I saw that it blew my mind!  Defiantly a good video! Here is an insane video of the E5......
Skip to 1:10 for the flight.

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Re: Any plans for a hard coat 14T
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2014, 04:46:21 PM »
What blades are you running I am using 716mm mostly.

I go between the 696s and 716s, just depends on the day, and what I feel like...
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