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Offline Rchelipastor

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Bearing Block Blunder
« on: February 20, 2016, 02:12:19 AM »
Hey all,
I just started building my 766! It's been a great experience thus far except for on mistake...I appear to have over tightened one of the bearing retainer screws in the upper bearing block and broke the head right off the screw. Based on the picture attached, would you replace it or should it be okay to fly? Any detailed input would be a blessing. Thanks everyone!
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Offline cml001

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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2016, 04:39:40 AM »
Wow.. Good question...
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Offline fran11784

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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2016, 05:35:19 AM »
Ah man, that sucks. I think it will be fine with just 3 bolts. Short of replacing the whole thing, maybe a jeweler can help...
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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2016, 07:00:19 AM »
Short of replacing it, which would be the better solution, you could see if you could extract the broken stub by drilling it. Or perhaps drilling and tapping  a new 2mm hole and threads right close to broken one.

Lastly red loctiting the bearing and use just 3 screws.

Again, I would replace it, not worth extra risk.
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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2016, 09:06:35 AM »
Correct me if I am wrong, but dont those holes go all the way through the block for the thrust bearing housing also? I would attack it from both sides with a drill bit, left or right handed and see if you can get it to move. Maybe try and heat the area around the screw(with bearing removed) to break any loctite bonds. I cant imagine that this would ever cause a problem even if you left it. Until now bearing have only been loctite'd in.
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Offline Rchelipastor

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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2016, 01:23:59 PM »
Is it loctited from the factory or do I need to put green loctite?

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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2016, 07:18:25 PM »
Is it loctited from the factory or do I need to put green loctite?
No loctite is applied when you receive the kit. Please loctite in all appropriate places
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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2016, 07:32:24 PM »
Is that bearing even able to be popped out? The Manuel didn't call for loctite there. Sorry to ask so many questions.

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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2016, 09:30:23 PM »
I put as small amount of green on mine. Probably not necessary as it is a very night fit, and the bolts eliminate a chance of it falling out
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Offline Mike Dipalo

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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2016, 10:23:45 PM »
A tiny bit of green or red on critical bearings that might rotate is what I go with.

In this case, I've had to deal with similar busted bolts on helis and cars.

For smaller fasteners, you can carefully Tig weld extra material onto the bolt to remove it with tools without having to try and drill it out or use a reverse drill bit. You have a window where the alum part acts as a heatsink before the entire assembly is heatsoaked. That said, you're really using very little current and, if done right, most bolts can be removed easily with vise grips barring the fastener being dug deep into a non threaded hole.

I had to do it on my first run E5 when they came with the weaker stainless servo screws. Those disappeared from kits quick. Had to pull a bolt from a friend's  7HV too where the prior owner had gone crazy on a frame bolt.

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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2016, 10:32:50 PM »
Unfortunately I don't have the welding skill set to do that! Maybe someday! I'm actually the senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Signal Hill in Southern California.

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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2016, 11:29:47 PM »
I'd ask any local welding shops if they have someone around who knows small tig stuff. Jewlers as mentioned, sometimes have micro tig equipment. Alternatively, I've got the stuff in my home lab. I wouldn't mind seeing if I can get it out. The bolt doesn't look too far down inside the hole.

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Offline Rchelipastor

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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2016, 11:59:07 PM »
Where are you located?

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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2016, 12:29:50 AM »
Use a dremel cutoff disk to cut a slot in the end of the bolt. Straight screwdriver may get it out. I've managed to make this work.
Disadvantages of this method: the slot will probably extend into the bearing block and loctite may stop you from being able to undo the bolt.

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Re: Bearing Block Blunder
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2016, 01:17:14 AM »
Yep! It's too far in there for me to do that without destroying the bearing block