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Offline jabull

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Blade tightness
« on: July 20, 2013, 01:17:03 PM »
Curious how tight most of you have your head and tail blades? :P
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Offline Jason Cummings

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Re: Blade tightness
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2013, 01:53:14 PM »
Mains fairly tight. Tails loose, but not so loose they fall under their own weight.

Offline Brandon Bartolomucci

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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2013, 03:23:05 PM »
I use the classic turn the heli on its side and give it a small jiggle and make sure the blades don't fall. If they don't, you're good. Also I verify as close as possible that they're the same tightness.


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Re: Blade tightness
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2013, 06:46:15 PM »
+1 on what Brandon said.
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Re: Blade tightness
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2013, 01:04:28 AM »
Mine are a little tighter than what I would normally run on a smaller helicopter, but not so tight.  Enough so that when you fold the blades it moves easily but not falling on their own weight as mentioned before.  For new blades, it seems that you have to check the tightness every couple of flights as things settle. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2013, 09:25:55 AM »
Thanks guys I have mine the same way just doing a sanity check :)
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2013, 08:12:12 PM »
I prefer fairly tight, mine will not fall on there own
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Re: Blade tightness
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2013, 09:25:40 AM »
We had this discussion at our field Saturday and it was explained per a conversation with henry caldwell, that tail blades should not be tight.  maybe not completely floppy, but snug enough that if the tail was shook they would fall under their own weight.

***the reason---as to why is because if they are too tight they dont lead-lag very well, or better explained they wont lead lag properly.  We were told that that its important that the tail blades be able to move in flight otherwise they'll stick and then be thrown as opposed to flowing properly. 

Not saying I fully understand the physics of rotary flight but those that are interested this is what Henry was saying.

Main Blades---these need to be pretty snug.  But if they are too snug they will cause a vibration that you'll see like the FBL unit is having a fit.  Also this important when doing autos blades to loose will fold if the auto isnt executed properly or you run out the inertia to early.  I cant say these examples have ever happened to me personally, but then again I run the blades tightness according to how I've listed here and have had zero problems.

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Re: Blade tightness
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2013, 02:33:10 PM »
Kevin, I agree with your methods and will add that main blade tightness also has to be adjusted in accordance with head-speed.

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Re: Blade tightness
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2013, 05:46:14 PM »
Kevin, I agree with your methods and will add that main blade tightness also has to be adjusted in accordance with head-speed.

Rich

Excellent points on tail blades.  Rich, would you mind explicating on tightness according to head-speed?  Interested but have never learned about this.
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Re: Blade tightness
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2013, 12:10:28 AM »
Greg, when flying slow-mo the main rotor blades must be able center themselves or fully extend.  Because of the lower head speed there is less centrifugal force.  Over tightening the main blade bolts will also effect the ability of the blades to lead and lag each other which happens in forward flight because due to the air flow acting on the leading and trailing edges of the blades.

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Re: Blade tightness
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2013, 10:33:19 AM »
Absolutely great info, thanks Rich!
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2013, 06:37:20 PM »
Anyone use a little grease on the washers to keep them from gauling
The aluminum grips and washers?
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2013, 10:00:53 PM »
This turned into a very helpful thread! Thanks everyone


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