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Offline Chris Sexton

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2014, 03:40:47 PM »
These might help with your iKON Gov setup issues.

Team iKON - Nitro Gov Basic Setup


Here is a link to a playlist i made on iKON setup for both electric and nitro/gas.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxiWUDzOfMoFRJM93he_yPcJTOA6LuK-r

If you have any questions the videos don't answer, please let me know!
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2014, 03:50:45 PM »
^^^^Chris is never far from an IKon question!!! i will watch that video too this evening, i have an ikon at the house i may try the gov on one day...

so this is what my curves on my helix prototype gasser look like. (gasser curves are different from nitro curves, gassers do not have a liner throttle.) i have only worked on one nitro, so i am still learning the nitro curves...

Normal - 0, 13, 26, 32, 46, 75, 100 (i have a DX9 that will allow me to have up to 7 points.
IU 1 - 100, 65, 32, 65, 100 - 1950 HS
IU 2 - 100, 72, 39, 72, 100 - 2100 HS

they are not "V" curves, they are really "U" curves. put the expo in there and they take a U shape. i assume nitro will be much more like electric "V" curves. gassers hover around 30% throttle, and most power is extracted between 30% and 70% of the throttle, not much more is extracted after 70%....
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2014, 07:26:08 PM »
Thanks Chris and Gasser!  Chris I have it set up pretty much the same with the exception of slightly lower head speeds but I am going to use that to do a double check!  :D  Great video!
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2014, 10:15:04 AM »
Well she is all back together and waiting on some new "FBLRotors" swash plate cyclic turnbuckle links which get here Friday  :)  Snap those on and all that is left is a final set up.  Flying her on Sunday and testing out my Throttle curves etc.   Chris I double checked my Throttle linkage set up in the Ikon and I am dead on with your settings and geometry except my 'idle setting in normal is 11% and my head speeds are 1750, 1850 and 1950.  This bird is stretched and I am running 606 mains and 96 tail.  Plus as a newbie heli pilot it seems 1800-1900 is good for me right now....

Oh and thanks to Chips for donating some spares!! ;)

I will keep you guys posted...... ;D
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2014, 02:17:46 PM »
don't feel bad bro....I destroyed my second E5 (550 format) this morning on its maiden voyage. too bad I didn't take video.

I had to re-level the swash after I had installed the head due to a computer misshap (my fat fingers), and totally forgot the elevator servo horn bolt.....

I flew for about 2min, did about 15 tick tocs (looking for an elevator bounce...), was in total shock that it wasn't bouncing and looked so good, went into a hover, snatched rear elevator and returned the stick to center easily, went forward elevator to correct, and nothing happened....I started to piro to get the tail from the ground and hopefully get the disk level, but no go, she went in...got into hold quick though, so not horrible, but pretty damn bad...lol!
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2014, 02:23:29 PM »
Doh!  Bummer.
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2014, 03:33:16 PM »
don't feel bad bro....I destroyed my second E5 (550 format) this morning on its maiden voyage. too bad I didn't take video.

I had to re-level the swash after I had installed the head due to a computer misshap (my fat fingers), and totally forgot the elevator servo horn bolt.....

I flew for about 2min, did about 15 tick tocs (looking for an elevator bounce...), was in total shock that it wasn't bouncing and looked so good, went into a hover, snatched rear elevator and returned the stick to center easily, went forward elevator to correct, and nothing happened....I started to piro to get the tail from the ground and hopefully get the disk level, but no go, she went in...got into hold quick though, so not horrible, but pretty damn bad...lol!

Aww Crap!!!  That has to be PAINFUL!  She will rise again I hope. :)  I know the feeling though.  I get 10 great flights over a couple weekends.  Than the next weekend one flight and crash (engine died).  Fix it, next weekend 1 flight and crash (my fault mostly, lol).  I am hoping for 2 Flights this weekend, haha.  8) 8)  Hope the rebuild goes well.  One thing is for sure, I have got to know this Heli very well...... :o

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2014, 03:44:54 PM »
I hear you.  Rebuilding my e5 was second nature after doing it the week before.

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2014, 04:46:16 PM »
yea man. no big deal. I have all the parts at the house to fix her up, but I went ahead and ordered everything I would need again too. that way I can replace my spares.....

the E5 is a very strong machine, takes a crash well. I am considering nylon, or Teflon, whatever I can find, for the skid bolts though. the last crash I had broke my frames right where the skids attach to them. that was when my ESC caught on fire. maybe some frame savers for the landing gear mounts would be a great idea! like the ones for the canopy mounts.
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2014, 07:01:39 PM »
Yeah that is what took out my frames to

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2014, 05:48:03 PM »
Just an update on my N5....She is all back together and rocking!  I got some shakedown flights in today and let my buddy ring it out pretty good and she flies great.  The motor is tuned great and the throttle curves I have set seem to be pretty good. 8)

Time to fly that sucker and enjoy it..... :)

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2014, 06:59:15 PM »
Nice!
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2014, 10:16:05 PM »
Sweet!!!
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2014, 06:50:38 AM »
Awesome dude!
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2014, 08:18:05 AM »
Thanks guys! :D  Now I need to start saving up for an E5 so I can add to the fleet, hehehe
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