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Offline CRFan1

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Bad day for my N5....
« on: August 16, 2014, 05:18:03 PM »
First flight of the day and the thing is running perfect.  I have benn flying helis about 6 weeks and progressing well and today I got the nerve to start doing some flips.  Well...on one of my flips the motor quit inverted about 60 feet up  :o  I got it right side up right away but i couldn't get the rotor speed up enough so it went in on the skids which was very fortunate.  In a testament to the Synergy toughness the only damage was a busted tank, landing skids, tail fin (cracked) and one elevator pitch rod.  Amazing really.  Everything else is spot on.  Easy repair.

I guess I have to learn to manage my cyclic/collective  :-\  I was at full rearward on the cyclic  and near mid on the collective when it quit.

Although truth be told this N5 I bought is a bit custom As I think it has the 700 head with 606 mains  ;)

She will be back in action next weekend!

Offline Carzan

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2014, 06:12:43 PM »
You should look into why the engine quit. It should not have quit on you in the middle of a flight. Did it lean out before it shut down?


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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2014, 06:41:02 PM »
No it was running great.....my friend said I loaded the motor to much with the cyclic/collective which is possible I guess.  This thing has a A LOT of cyclic pitch and I may tone it down some.  I have quite a few flights on the motor and it is tuned well.

Offline Carzan

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2014, 07:57:51 PM »
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  I was at full rearward on the cyclic  and near mid on the collective when it quit.

mid stick is 0 degrees collective pitch. The full cyclic should not kill your engine.
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2014, 08:22:18 PM »
Ok....that's a good point  :)

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2014, 12:19:17 AM »
Does that N5 have Custom Carbon Frames?? Post a Pic? Sorry to hear of the unfortunate incident. How much pitch are you running and what Engine are you using? I sold my Carbon N5 with a YS56 to a buddy of mine whom sold it not to long ago.. There is only one in existence, if you have it, it is a very strong Bird..

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2014, 07:07:16 AM »
Don't think this has custom carbon frames?  I am running an OS 55 HZR and so far it has been rock solid......other than quitting on me yesterday  :o

I am running 13 degrees of pitch both ways.  There is a pic in one of my previous posts :)

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2014, 08:12:48 AM »
I run the same engine in my n5c. The only times i had it quit was ran out of fuel or a hole or tear in my fuel line. Even when you load it up i dont see how that can kill the engine.  How was the tank pressure on the previous flights when you ended each flight?
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2014, 08:14:08 AM »
I run the same engine in my n5c. The only times i had it quit was ran out of fuel or a hole or tear in my fuel line. Even when you load it up i dont see how that can kill the engine.  How was the tank pressure on the previous flights when you ended each flight?
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Kind of my thoughts too...Tank pressure is very good.  I will be spending time looking at my tune before I get crazy with it again.  :)

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2014, 09:56:45 AM »
Well, got all the parts for my N5 yesterday and finished setting her up last night  :)  A whopping $45 repair, which is not bad for a heli that fell 50 feet out of the sky, lol!  Tomorrow I will be doing some testing and tuning and hopefully no issues.   ;D

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2014, 07:05:48 AM »
Awesome , keep us posted on how it goes.
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2014, 08:45:17 AM »
Awesome , keep us posted on how it goes.
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Hehe..well...It did not go to good.  Chalk it up to learning.  :o  The heli was flying great for a bit but I found out what caused the initial problem and I can kick myself for not checking it in the first place  >:(  Turns out a Magnet was missing from the clutch bell and as I discovered,  without warning would jump to idle and stay a bit before going back to full speed..  Not a big deal for you experienced pilots but it caught me off guard and I had a blade strike while trying to get it down because it did it right when I was about to land and I panicked a bit.  Need blades, and a few other small things but it will be fixed pretty easily.   I am guessing this is what happened last weekend in the middle of my flip and with the load I had on it it killed the motor.  Good thing is I am learning and I won't be making these mistakes again.  :) 

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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2014, 07:09:32 PM »
Oh bummer. :-[  glad it wasn't worse!
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2014, 08:30:26 AM »
dang that stinks man! triple check everything this go around! you will get it, and you will fall in love with this bird. a great bird to get comfortable with and learn on!
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Re: Bad day for my N5....
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2014, 09:05:56 AM »
Thanks Guys!  Believe me...I am checking everything, haha.  Oh and I know this bird is awesome because I got around 8 flights on it before the issue last weekend (probably when I lost the stupid magnet, lol).  The tricky part is this is not a stock N5.  It has the E6 head, main shaft and tail boom (stretched) and I am running 606mm Rails, etc.   It flies awesome though.  ;D