N5C versus N7

[Dean H]

I am converting my entire fleet to Synergy. I am considering a nitro. I have 0 experience with nitro. Not even sure if I want to get a nitro bird... I've heard that a nitro will help gain better collective management skills. I'm on the fence as to whether the N5C or N7 is a better choice for a nitro beginner. Going by crash cost the N5C wins. Can I get some advice on the best engine and other equipment needed? I like simple setups. Thanks!

[alan]

N5C for your first nitro for the win! OS55-HZR. Hatori pipe if you can find one! CGY or Vbar. That will also take care of the Gov.
N5C is easy on the fuel. Flies very well. Lower cost than the N7. Nitro birds will help your collective management for sure.
Cheers
Alan


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[Dean H]

How big is it? 606 blades seem kind of small???

[cml001]

I can't speak for the N7 as I don't own one.. Really want one tho.. The N5C however.. Is my favorite heli... Out of my 550DFC, N5C, & E7SE... It's the first one i grab to head out the door with. Something about the nitro just makes u want to fly it... & it flys AWESOMELY! It will teach u collective management for sure.. Which I still need lessons.. Lol.. It's the easiest on prep for a quick trip to the field... Just the bird, 1rx pack, fuel & starter, & ur tX of course... No box of packs.. No generator & charging rig.. No waiting on charging.. No cool down period.. Just fly fly fly fly.. There is more in the way of cleaning & maintenance I suppose.. Size.. 606.. Have seen the YS60 in some w 626s.. But it in no way feels small.. Great bird!

[Mike Spano]

I agree with the previous posters. N5C for sure

Airframe - N5C
Blades - 606mains 96-106tails (I run 106mm tails because I do a lot of hard aileron maneuvers but 96 is perfect too)
Motor - OS55HZ or HZR, either works well in this heli. I recommend HZR for a new nitro pilot though
Pipe - Hatori (with the os55, I have actually had much better power running the hatori made for the ys60)
Servos - use a plastic case servo with 150oz +. plastic will keep the heli light.
RX pack - 2200-2500ma pack is plenty, and keeps the heli light. I run a 1800 when I really want it very light. just don't get many flights on it.
FBL - the NEO and CGY both work great on this heli and have great gov. I lean towards the NEO, only preference, no real reason.
Head Speeds - IU1-1950, IU2-2150 some guys like 2250 as well.
Fuel - ok, I will have some guys bounce back at me about this, but, it has been my experience that the os55 is easier to tune, AND makes more power with the rotor rage 22.5% vs the 30%. it may very well be my flight style, or the different pipe, or how I have my gov setup, I don't know. all I know is the heli flys better with 22.5%, AND its cheaper!

on my N5C, I am running 14* collective pitch, and 11.5* cyclic pitch in the neo and it pulls and pulls and pulls. a nitro is the absolute best way to better your collective management and overall flight skills IMO. there is a natural feel to a nitro that cannot be emulated by most electrics. it has to do with the combustion engine and the torque it produces at the bottom end (around center). you will fly that N5C for about 2 months, then you will be ordering an N7, TRUST ME....

the wife turned the camera sideways after she started recording, so you have to turn your head to really watch it well. LOL. she also lost it for about 10 seconds, once she finds it back though, its a decent video. not an entire flight, but you will get an idea of the power it has. the presents in the air is also not small, believe me, it flys and looks larger than it really is.

https://youtu.be/nPwoQEM7FDQ

[Rodney Kirstine]

Add my name to the list who would wholeheartedly recommend the N5C with an OS55HZR.  They just plain fly and fly and fly.  It was my first nitro helicopter and it's definitely easier on the wallet in case you get a little too aggressive on your tune and hurt the motor.  I love my N7, too, but there's something about the N5C that makes me always want to fly it first.  I run a Funtech B320 pipe on mine and the OS55 makes enough power to do full pitch climb-outs forever without it bogging.

[Barry Tilson]

I have both, the N5c is my current favorite. Going to spend time getting better at autos with it this year.  I like the older weird bell crank style. The N7 is great also, just paying more for fuel and parts.


Barry
Perspective Visuals

[Chris Sexton]

I too have both.  The N5c was my first ever nitro, and man did it start something...

I am VERY partial to my N5cs.  Even built a dedicated night bird.

[Dean H]

Thanks everybody for your responses! Well, I've done it now....I took advantage of the Easter sales and found it in stock across the pond. I ordered a N5C kit, Hatori pipe, OS HZ-R engine, 606 mains and 96 tails! Regarding the pipe, Midland Helis listed it as #566 (for use with YS56SR and OS55). Everywhere I looked online the pipe for the OS55 is SAB-55. I cannot find a reference that connects #566 w/ SAB-55. I'm just wondering if I got the correct pipe or if there is a difference between the two???

I'm pulling the BLS272's and BLS276 off my Goblin 700 and will put a CGY750 in it. What is a good throttle servo?

[Chris Sexton]

Yeah the SAB-55 fit the YS too. That's the one.


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[Chris Sexton]

I am using one of the new Xpert mini cyclic servos on mine. The BK 5001 works but you have to trim the carbon a bit to get the larger servo motor to clear.

JR 3717 works too


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[Rodney Kirstine]

I'm using the BK DS-5001.

[Dean H]

Cool, thanks!

What other odds & ends are you guys using? Bubbleless clunk, glow igniter, etc.?

What are your thoughts on yhe Align starter?

[Chris Sexton]

No. No no no. Align starter is a jackhammer. Buy once. Sullivan Dynatron and the Sullivan starter wand. Never need another


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[Dean H]

Hahaha...like everything, you get what you pay for, huh! I will take that advice! Thanks, Chris!