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Offline Jon Mills

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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2013, 12:17:08 PM »
I am not tuning my engines based on the telemetry readings. Those are just reassurance that I am in fact not running too lean.  I base my settings on performance, smoke and sound. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2

This is what I wanted to convey but could not get the words out. I want to let you all know that I am in fact paranoid.  I had a rough start in nitro and would love nothing more than to not blow up another piston because of temp. :-[

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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2013, 01:59:22 PM »
soo.... step one taken... :)
rjx cyclic servos ordered...
n5c belt kit ordered...nice!

got that kit for 350£ instead of usual 450£ (new with discount+haloveen discount), 3x servos 150£... :( most likely going to go with brain or IKON as fbl... (i REALLY wanted to try skookum black 720+gps, but as far as i know gps doesnt work with nitro vibes....   :-\... now that i think... i could pull brain off my protos 500 and get skookum for protos...  ::))

still thinking about tail servo... most likely will get also rjx...(any better HV tail servos for around 100$?)

i want to get dynatron starter... i know its great for 90 helis... but how about 50? i think it comes with aeroplane starter cone... any aftermarket hex shafts you could suggest?

governor... i think ikon and brain governors are ok, no?? i need governor rpm sensor? anything plug and play with ikon/brain?

the more i watch tuning videos, the more i want that extra power of ys60... but most likely ill get os55...

rx batteries... is there any rx lipo wich comes with 2 jr plugs already on it??

so far, my money is done, and now im eagerly waiting for next month to get engine, starter and fbl...

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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2013, 02:01:58 PM »
oh... almost forgot... :) since n5c is considered 'old-ish' kit, and new tt edition is coming out... after crash, i can get tt upgrade kit, shortened main shaft, e5 head, and i would be good to go in terms of parts availability for quite a while?

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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2013, 02:25:04 PM »
oh... almost forgot... :) since n5c is considered 'old-ish' kit, and new tt edition is coming out... after crash, i can get tt upgrade kit, shortened main shaft, e5 head, and i would be good to go in terms of parts availability for quite a while?

TT or not, you are safe on parts for a while :)
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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2013, 02:33:22 PM »
My unprofessional advice...

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still thinking about tail servo... most likely will get also rjx.

talk to Chris Sexton I think he's trying these.

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governor... i think ikon and brain governors are ok, no?? i need governor rpm sensor? anything plug and play with ikon/brain?

The ikon works great, I've flown it and it feels really good. As for the Gov I've heard its not the best but works. That said, I think it may be due to the adjustability of it so if you dont dial it in right..it doesnt work right..just may need to tinker with that a bit.   

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the more i watch tuning videos, the more i want that extra power of ys60... but most likely ill get os55

If you want a set it and forget it (for the day) engine go OS....I'm running the YS60 and it does have alot of power..still getting use to the learning curve of tuning..and btw it sounds way different when its lean..so if your use to OS, just remember that.  I havent run it enough to make a recommendation but tuning is more finicky on the YS.

dynatron is a great starter, if you have the cash for it go with the dynatron that way you'll be prepared to pick up an N7 too............see what I did there? lol

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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2013, 02:43:49 PM »

i want to get dynatron starter... i know its great for 90 helis... but how about 50? i think it comes with aeroplane starter cone... any aftermarket hex shafts you could suggest?


Great heli starter extension for the Dynatron is the Sullivan S613.

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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2013, 03:10:00 PM »

i want to get dynatron starter... i know its great for 90 helis... but how about 50? i think it comes with aeroplane starter cone... any aftermarket hex shafts you could suggest?


Great heli starter extension for the Dynatron is the Sullivan S613.

Mark


shiiish... it costs nearly more than starter itself lol...  :o

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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #52 on: October 30, 2013, 03:45:41 PM »
I use a cordless drill with tremendous success. :)

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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #53 on: October 30, 2013, 03:52:08 PM »
I think I paid $13 for the starter extension I use and it works great.  It's something like this one:

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/2_375_1493_410/products_id/9478/n/Thunder-Tiger-6mm-Hex-Starter-Extension

You just shove it right into the rubber cone in your starter.

On the FBL controller, I ran the SK540 on mine at first and it's governor is really good.  Currently, I'm running the Futaba CGY-750, which also has a really good nitro gov.
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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #54 on: October 30, 2013, 04:06:34 PM »

I now have the exact same setup as Mark. I was using a hobbico and a shaft similar to what Rodney mentioned. It worked okay. Mine was misplaced or walked off at Swarm so I bit the bullet and bought the Dynatron. Wow. What a difference. On the 91 the hobbico struggled. Not with the Dynatron. The Sullivan shift is also top notch and clamped right on the starter. Best investment you could make if you are serious about nitro. I am running the starter on a 5S 3300 pack using the bracket available from Ron Lund.

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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #55 on: October 30, 2013, 05:00:11 PM »
I'm not sure if mine's going to be up to the task of firing up my 105 when I get the N7 together.  What's funny is that I don't even know what starter I really have because it doesn't have any stickers or markings on it, at all.  I bought it about 20 years ago when I bought a 40-sized ARF trainer plank.  The plank is still "ARF", sitting in my attic.  When I bought my N5C, I remembered that I had a starter sitting around, somewhere.  I found it, cut the alligator clip leads off of it and installed an EC5 connector.  I'm running it on a 3S 3300mAh battery.  It spins the crap out of my OS55, so I'm hoping it will spin the 105.

What's the big advantage of the Sullivan shift wand over the cheap ones?
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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #56 on: October 30, 2013, 06:12:49 PM »
I have had the cheaper ones pop out of the rubber cone adapter. The Sullivan clamps on to the actual shaft eliminating the cone. Also I went through two of the cheaper ones last year. The one way bearings went out.

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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #57 on: October 30, 2013, 08:16:30 PM »
Mine is so cheap, it has no one-way bearing to go bad.  I guess that was really my question... What is the owb for?
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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #58 on: October 30, 2013, 08:29:20 PM »
Correct me if I am wrong here. The one way bearing on the starter enables the start shaft to spin freely once the engine starts and you release the trigger on the starter. This allows the engine to run and not be stalled. On that same note most birds already have a one way bearing built into the starter shaft, which makes the owb on the starter unnecessary.  If Rodney doesn't have a problem then I am assuming the N5C has a owb built into the start shaft.

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Re: Synergy N5C Flybarless Belt Drive Kit for a first nitro?
« Reply #59 on: October 30, 2013, 08:42:03 PM »
Yes it does. My N9 does not.

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